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CJ on Overdrive today said there have been no contracts offered or talked about yet and pretty much it's not going to happen until the season is long over.

I thought Patches would do better then he has. Father time does catch up to everyone tho. I wouldn't mind him running around on the 3rd/4th line banging people. Hopefully he can pop a few goals too.

Well said CW. Couldn't agree more.

There's the rub. Tre never said he was a priority to re-sign and nobody has said they've even made an offer. People are guessing they will do this or that but there's nothing out there definitively. Now if Tre says we've made an offer for xxx amount, like Neely did with Swayman, there's...

Marner's numbers were pretty good too but the line lacked finish, hence the low point totals.

No doubt it mainly rests with the core 4 but bottom 6/ D scoring has been a sore spot as well. You can't have L3 and L4 not doing anything but killing time out there. Last year was a disaster though because of the injuries. Had they been healthy with both 88 and 34, not to mention 74, I think...

And to add, they also offered a different package to get Rants.

That has been the biggest issue. Secondary scoring hasn't been up to snuff.

The whining part was at Leafs fans in general. Not you personally...my bad and I apologize if you took it that way.

The issue here is the Leafs have played games with him. Right from the ELC. They asked for performance bonuses when he originally signed and Lou said we don't do all of those and then turned around and gave Matthews everything he wanted, including those bonuses. That potentially cost Marner 6M...

Willy signed 1st and 5M was a little low but not outrageously low for a one dimensional player.

Very true. People were all over it and I think it was CJ or some other clown that said Marner is getting traded 100%. Lots of people saying you can't run it back again, he needs to go. The only little break came when Berube had a coffee with him and told the media he can't wait to work with him.

He's 91 apparently. Pretty good for that age.

Short memory? 88 was coming off a 61pt in 82 games when he signed for more than Pasta who was coming of 70 pts in 75 games before he signed his. Pasta has been at least a point per game player since the start of that deal. Willy was close to being a point per game guy in year 4, but wasn't...

You mean the way 88 held out? You're right, this ain't it. Speaking of market value. You honestly believe 88 is worth more then Pasta? Funny you had no problem with 88 or 34 maximizing their value and even getting overpaid in 88's case, but if 16 is going to go to market to find out his value...

All bullshit because CJ said he believes Marner will go to market. Pretty big assumption and guess what, if that's the case, that's his right, he's earned it. But like I said above he's never said anything but wanting to play for the Leafs and is focusing on the year.

Please show us where they offered him a ridiculous amount? We haven't heard nothing from the Marner camp. All Marner keeps saying is he wants to be a Leaf but it's not good enough. I have no issue with him trying to maximize his value, just like 88 and 34 have done. Why do people begrudge...

Cowan assisted on London's 1st 3 goals and finished with 4 assists and a fight in a 9-0 romp over Sarnia. He now has 59pts in 42 games.

Good on him letting the media know that they can stop asking.

I thought it very odd even for you lol. Totally agree on 88. The back check, the standing around in the D zone has to change. You can't always be saving your energy for offence. The 91/88 pair gave up the most chances last night and it wasn't close. That won't cut it in the playoffs.