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2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

herman

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Rodion Amirov 3-yr ELC 925k AAV
Pontus Holmberg 2-yr ELC 828k AAV
Alex Steeves 3-yr ELC 834k AAV
Kirill Semyonov 1-yr UFA ELC 825k
Erik Kallgren 2-yr UFA ELC 750k AAV
Jared McCann - PIT trade
Future Considerations - BOS trade
Petr Mrazek - UFA 3 yrs 3.8 AAV
Brennan Menell - MIN trade
Michael Bunting - UFA 2 yrs 950k AAV
Mike Amadio - two-way 750k
Kurtis Gabriel - 1 yr 750k
David Kampf - 2-yr 1.5M AAV
Alex Biega - two-way 750k
Carl Dahlstrom - two-way 750k
Brett Seney - two-way 750k
Pavel Gogolev - 3-yr ELC
Ondrej Kase - 1-yr 1.25M
Nick Ritchie - 2-yrs 2.5M AAV
William Villenueve - 3-yr ELC
Braeden Kressler - 3-yr ELC
Kyle Clifford - STL trade
Chad Krys - CHI trade
Ty Voit - 3-yr ELC
Adam Brooks - waiver claim (VGK)
Dmitry Ovchinnikov - 3-yr ELC
Ryan Dzingel - ARI trade
Ilya Lyubushkin - ARI trade
Carter Hutton?s salary - ARI trade
Colin Blackwell - SEA trade
Mark Giordano - SEA trade
Nick Abbruzzese - 2-yr ELC

Danielle Goyette, Director of Player Development
Ryan Hardy, Senior Director of Minor League Operations, GM of Marlies and Growlers
Dean Chynoweth, Assistant Coach
Spencer Carbery, Assistant Coach
Greg Harden (!!) - Peak Performance Coach
Christoffer Hedlund - Amateur Scout
Darren Ritchie - Amateur Scout
Marian Agyei-Gyamera - Management Development candidate
TJ Millar - Coaching Development candidate
Randi Milani - Player Development, Skating Consultant
Michele Moore Davison - Player Development, Skating Consultant
Paul Matheson - Player Development, Skating Consultant

PTO
Josh Ho-Sang - Marlies, 1-year
Nikita Gusev
Evan Cormier - Growlers

Re-Signed
Jason Spezza - 750k
Wayne Simmonds - 2 years 900k AAV
Travis Dermott - 2 years 1.5M AAV
Joseph Woll - two-way 750k
Brennan Menell - two-way 750k
Joey Duszak - two-way 750k

Out
Jared McCann --> SEA Expansion Pick
Kenny Agostino (UFA) --> Torpedo, KHL
Martin Marincin (UFA) --> HC Ocelari, Czech League
Kalle Kossila (UFA) --> Jokerit, KHL
Antti Suomela (UFA) --> Marlies, AHL
Filip H?llander ?> PIT trade
Veini Vehvilainen (unqualified) --> Byrnas IF, SHL
JD Greenway (rights) --> BOS trade
Zach Bogosian (UFA) --> TBL
Nic Petan (unqualified) --> VAN
Zach Hyman (UFA) ?> EDM :(
Nick Foligno (UFA) ?> BOS
Freddie Andersen (UFA) ?> CAR
David Rittich (UFA) ?> NSH
Calle Ros?n (UFA) ?> STL
Riley Nash (UFA) --> WPG
Stefan Noesen (UFA) ?> CAR
Joe Thornton (UFA) ?> FLA
Scott Sabourin (UFA) --> OTT
Denis Malgin ?> Zurich Lions
Alex Galchenyuk (UFA) --> ARI
Adam Brooks (waiver) ?> MTL
Mike Amadio (waiver) ?> VGK
Kirill Semyonov --> KHL
Kurtis Gabriel --> CHI trade
Adam Brooks --> waivers (again)
Nick Ritchie --> ARI trade
Ryan Dzingel --> waivers
Travis Dermott ?> VAN trade
Alex Biega --> NSH trade

Scott Pellerin --> Pro Scout, Arizona Coyotes
Stephan Robidas --> Head Coach, Magog Cantonniers
Troy Bodie ?> Director of Hockey and Business Operations, Seattle Kraken
Dave Hakstol --> Head Coach, Seattle Kraken
Patrick Charbonneau
John Kisil
Blair MacKasey
Sirpa Lehti
Dr. Meg Popovic
John Lilley --> Director of Player Personnel and Director of Amateur Scouting, New York Rangers
Tim Speltz ?> GM, Henderson Silver Knights (AHL, Vegas)
Barb Underhill ?> retirement
 
You know, it's interesting. I find myself much more engaged in the off-season than I do when the Leafs are still in it. I think that's mainly because I find the discussions in the off-season more interesting("What should this team do to improve?" vs. "What happened last night?").

I guess that's partially why I'm not that upset by the losses. I sort of feel like the stuff a team does during the off-season gives them a certain number of ping pong balls and the playoffs are just a lottery, effectively, and if the wrong number comes up...you just go back to work trying to get as many chances as you can.
 
I like watching them come together (or not) during the season. 

Then they re-set the rules and skillz get dunked and then Love Lies Bleeding On the Floor.
 
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1405175951764381698
A $6 million cap hit might sound outrageous to some Leafs fans, who have watched as Hyman has gone from a Marlies checker to a bonafide NHL first-liner over the last six seasons. But, statistically speaking, Hyman falls in the same category as veteran UFA wingers like Nick Foligno, Ryan Callahan, Cam Atkinson and, yes, David Clarkson who all signed for around 8 percent of the salary cap as UFAs over the last eight years.

Even in a pandemic-induced flat cap world, that?s $6.5 million a season.
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herman said:
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1405175951764381698
A $6 million cap hit might sound outrageous to some Leafs fans, who have watched as Hyman has gone from a Marlies checker to a bonafide NHL first-liner over the last six seasons. But, statistically speaking, Hyman falls in the same category as veteran UFA wingers like Nick Foligno, Ryan Callahan, Cam Atkinson and, yes, David Clarkson who all signed for around 8 percent of the salary cap as UFAs over the last eight years.

Even in a pandemic-induced flat cap world, that?s $6.5 million a season.
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Fine, see ya. I said it before, a slight increase from Connor Brown's 3.6 mill. Don't like it, goodbye and good luck.
 
Guilt Trip said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1405175951764381698
A $6 million cap hit might sound outrageous to some Leafs fans, who have watched as Hyman has gone from a Marlies checker to a bonafide NHL first-liner over the last six seasons. But, statistically speaking, Hyman falls in the same category as veteran UFA wingers like Nick Foligno, Ryan Callahan, Cam Atkinson and, yes, David Clarkson who all signed for around 8 percent of the salary cap as UFAs over the last eight years.

Even in a pandemic-induced flat cap world, that?s $6.5 million a season.
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Fine, see ya. I said it before, a slight increase from Connor Brown's 3.6 mill. Don't like it, goodbye and good luck.
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For sure, but let's not imagine he'll be easy to replace.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Guilt Trip said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1405175951764381698
A $6 million cap hit might sound outrageous to some Leafs fans, who have watched as Hyman has gone from a Marlies checker to a bonafide NHL first-liner over the last six seasons. But, statistically speaking, Hyman falls in the same category as veteran UFA wingers like Nick Foligno, Ryan Callahan, Cam Atkinson and, yes, David Clarkson who all signed for around 8 percent of the salary cap as UFAs over the last eight years.

Even in a pandemic-induced flat cap world, that?s $6.5 million a season.
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Fine, see ya. I said it before, a slight increase from Connor Brown's 3.6 mill. Don't like it, goodbye and good luck.
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For sure, but let's not imagine he'll be easy to replace.
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I didn't say he would be but he is replaceable. M&M produce just fine without him and the Leafs kept winning when he was out. I like him but not at that kind of cap hit. You could probably get Coleman and Goodrow for less then what the author is suggesting.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
For sure, but let's not imagine he'll be easy to replace.
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The team is built on the theory that players like Hyman are though. Every forward other than the big 4 is just a guy on a cheap contract who cycles in, gives good value and maybe even has a great year (driven by the superstars), and then cashes in somewhere else.

Ive been coming around to the idea that a middle class is good to have, but, If reporting from CJ and Mirtle is right, Hyman?s just beyond what they can afford after this last season

Is it me or has the current Leafs regime been pretty complacent about getting extensions done? Or are all the upcoming UFAs flatly refusing to discuss a deal until after their ?contract season??
 
mr grieves said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
For sure, but let's not imagine he'll be easy to replace.
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The team is built on the theory that players like Hyman are though. Every forward other than the big 4 is just a guy on a cheap contract who cycles in, gives good value and maybe even has a great year (driven by the superstars), and then cashes in somewhere else.

Ive been coming around to the idea that a middle class is good to have, but, If reporting from CJ and Mirtle is right, Hyman?s just beyond what they can afford after this last season

Is it me or has the current Leafs regime been pretty complacent about getting extensions done? Or are all the upcoming UFAs flatly refusing to discuss a deal until after their ?contract season??
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There have been 22 contract signings in 2021 that have been for more than 1,000,000 and at least 2 years.  Noone is signing contracts right now.
 
With Hyman almost certainly gone I'm coming around to the idea of trying to bring Foligno back. I know Chris Johnston was kinda musing about the possibility of him coming back on a 1-year deal to sorta rebuild his value and take another shot with the Leafs. Lots of talk about him returning to Columbus originally but with Torts gone and them maybe going through a bit of a rebuild with a potential Jones trade maybe he stays here for a year or two before going back. Don't think he replaces Hyman entirely but still a good lite version to have around, especially in defensive situations and on the PK.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/1405175951764381698
A $6 million cap hit might sound outrageous to some Leafs fans, who have watched as Hyman has gone from a Marlies checker to a bonafide NHL first-liner over the last six seasons. But, statistically speaking, Hyman falls in the same category as veteran UFA wingers like Nick Foligno, Ryan Callahan, Cam Atkinson and, yes, David Clarkson who all signed for around 8 percent of the salary cap as UFAs over the last eight years.

Even in a pandemic-induced flat cap world, that?s $6.5 million a season.
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I don't know which statistics he's using but it seems a little misleading to just list those guys without taking into account the impact playing on the lines he did impacted Hyman's offensive output. I'd have to look it up but I'd be very surprised if Callahan, Clarkson or Foligno ever had anything comparable.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
With Hyman almost certainly gone I'm coming around to the idea of trying to bring Foligno back. I know Chris Johnston was kinda musing about the possibility of him coming back on a 1-year deal to sorta rebuild his value and take another shot with the Leafs. Lots of talk about him returning to Columbus originally but with Torts gone and them maybe going through a bit of a rebuild with a potential Jones trade maybe he stays here for a year or two before going back. Don't think he replaces Hyman entirely but still a good lite version to have around, especially in defensive situations and on the PK.
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I think you could get Foligno a lot cheaper then Hyman and I would bring him back too if possible. I like what he brought when healthy and would be a good fit with the team.
 
Guilt Trip said:
CarltonTheBear said:
With Hyman almost certainly gone I'm coming around to the idea of trying to bring Foligno back. I know Chris Johnston was kinda musing about the possibility of him coming back on a 1-year deal to sorta rebuild his value and take another shot with the Leafs. Lots of talk about him returning to Columbus originally but with Torts gone and them maybe going through a bit of a rebuild with a potential Jones trade maybe he stays here for a year or two before going back. Don't think he replaces Hyman entirely but still a good lite version to have around, especially in defensive situations and on the PK.
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I think you could get Foligno a lot cheaper then Hyman and I would bring him back too if possible. I like what he brought when healthy and would be a good fit with the team.
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In an ideal world I'd hold on to Hyman, Foligno and bring in whoever else fits that mold of tough-to-play-against. I'm looking at Komorov in these playoffs and regretting the fact the Leafs had to part ways with him. These are the exact type players the Leafs need to offset the high end talent that gets mugged and nurtured in the playoffs.
 
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