2020 Blue Jays General Season Thread
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Highlander
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Yes, thought you meant Martin, got it, thanks.Andy said:
Andy007
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Makes more sense for the O's, especially if they think they have something special in Kjerstad. I still thought they'd have enough $ left to reel in at least another good over-slot player though.
Frank- There is a total dollar allotment that teams are allowed to, cumulatively, spend during one draft, and that is based on where their picking position is. So a young player with, say, Boras as an agent or who has a particularly high potential/ceiling might ask for more money than their draft position typically garners.
Frank- There is a total dollar allotment that teams are allowed to, cumulatively, spend during one draft, and that is based on where their picking position is. So a young player with, say, Boras as an agent or who has a particularly high potential/ceiling might ask for more money than their draft position typically garners.
Kin
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Frank E said:
It's complicated but I'll try to put it as simply as I can for anyone interested:
So, players taken in the MLB draft don't have a predetermined amount of money they make based on where they're drafted. Teams draft players, then have to negotiate a signing bonus. In the past that meant that some very good players didn't get drafted high because their signing bonus demands were very high so smaller revenue teams might opt to draft someone with lower salary demands because they were more affordable.
Nowadays, however, in an attempt to curtail the practice of high value draft picks falling to high revenue teams, all teams are allocated a certain signing bonus total for all of their draft picks that they can't exceed without facing penalties. Each draft pick is assigned what's known as a slot number, for simplicity's sake, let's say that the #1 pick has a slot number of 8 million dollars, the #2 pick is 7.5 million and so on.
So if a team has the #1 pick, with a slot bonus of 8 million, and also the #31 pick, with a slot bonus of 1 million and then two other picks whose slot numbers are 1 million total. That means that team has a bonus pool of 10 million. Now, they're allowed to allocate that money however they want. They don't have to pay the guy they pick #1 all 8 million. So if they have two prospects at #1 they like but one says he's willing to sign for 7.5 million, that extra 500,000 can be used by the team to sign their other draft picks.
So a team, let's say the Orioles, chose to draft someone generally seen as being outside the top 5 players in the draft in part because they were able to sign him for less than his slot number. That meant they could use later picks on players with salary demands that might exceed their slot numbers.
This comes into play a lot with players drafted out of high school. A high school prospect seen as pretty good value might want more than their slot number and say if they don't get it they won't sign with the team that drafted them and will instead go to college and re-enter the draft later. By having unused money in their bonus pool, a team can draft high value high school prospects and financially entice them go into their minor league system instead of college. Because oftentimes players improve in college and improve their draft position when they re-enter, offering over slot bonuses to high schoolers can be a way to get a lot of value from picks outside of the 1st round.
Frank E
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Just read a little short piece on Alek Manoah...I know nothing of him other than what I read in the article...is he seen as a legit starter prospect for the Jays?
EDIT: Here's the link to the article: https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/alek-manoah-blessing-velocity-changeup-mark-fate/
EDIT: Here's the link to the article: https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/alek-manoah-blessing-velocity-changeup-mark-fate/
Kin
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Frank E said:
Probably just a little too early to tell in his case. He's pitched 17 innings of pro ball and probably won't make the Majors for another 2-3 seasons. Like the article says, where he eventually ends up is going to depend on how well he can develop secondary pitches and that's a bit of a crap shoot with any pitcher.
Frank E
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Bender said:
I actually think that the amount of sports players getting the virus is very shocking. I can only assume that they're being quite flagrant with some of the new protocols, given none of them have had to go to work for months now.
The population of even the USA is still at far less than 1% infection rate.
Frank E said:
The not shocking thing to me is that 3 of the teams training in Florida have had these issues. Cases are spiking there and restrictions seem pretty lax. These players might have been doing everything right in terms of quarantining the past few months but once you start bringing them back into these training facilities the threat becomes higher regardless of how safe they thing they're being.
Frank E said:
I mean, I get that lots of people follow the precautionary principle and will do cautious things before they become a problem but in Florida what protocols are there really? It's out of control to a point where unless you're being extra cautious I don't see why people wouldn't pick it up after maybe having a dinner with another family.