2021 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
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L K
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herman said:
Unfortunately the Raptors are definitely falling out of that window. They are a good team but with the Lowry trade rumours rumbling, that team is a good 2-3 pieces away from being a contender. The East is disgustingly bad right now so even if they trade Lowry they are probably still a playoff team.
Kin
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Just to sum up the Jays:
- Have so many good young position players it will be hard to get them all enough at-bats.
- Have a consensus top 5 in baseball farm system
- Only have 60 million committed past this year, which means they could have as much as 100 million to spend.
It's not perfect, the pitching staff needs help and we don't know when they'll actually be in Toronto again but it's a heck of a start.
- Have so many good young position players it will be hard to get them all enough at-bats.
- Have a consensus top 5 in baseball farm system
- Only have 60 million committed past this year, which means they could have as much as 100 million to spend.
It's not perfect, the pitching staff needs help and we don't know when they'll actually be in Toronto again but it's a heck of a start.
L K
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Their rotation is still really, really suspect to me.
Ryu has injury history but should be reliable. Pearson is either going to dominate or will have control issues. Everyone else is a huge question mark. They have a lot of 4/5 starters and are missing 1-2 middle of the rotation arms. I still hope they sign one of the Odorizzi/Walker/Paxton crew now and then possibly get an upgrade at the deadline.
Ryu has injury history but should be reliable. Pearson is either going to dominate or will have control issues. Everyone else is a huge question mark. They have a lot of 4/5 starters and are missing 1-2 middle of the rotation arms. I still hope they sign one of the Odorizzi/Walker/Paxton crew now and then possibly get an upgrade at the deadline.
Kin
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L K said:
It's not that I disagree with that but I think you need to contextualize that in the bigger picture. Are there teams like San Diego or LA who are in a significantly better spot than that? Yes. But beyond a handful of teams you're not going to find many without injury questions or multiple front line starters. If Pearson can be a legit #1 I really think they'd be pretty well suited even with a fairly minor addition like Walker or Paxton.
Now, admittedly, that's a huge if but developing pitching was always going to be part of the plan. Between Pearson, SWR, Manoah and even guys like Van Eyk there's reason to think they can be pretty good pretty quick if they even hit on a couple of those guys.
L K
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Nik said:
In fairness I'm just thinking this year. I'm a big fan of SWR and Manoah in particular. They aren't going to break with the team this year.
Im not as comfortable with the back of the rotation this year wtih Ray/Roark/Stripling/Matz. I think if you end up signing Paxton its probably just a 1-year deal, maybe a 2 year if you go Walker/Odorizzi. I think that still fits with the SWR/Manoah guys breaking with the team in a year or two.
I'm just strictly thinking about competing for this season because the prospect depth of this franchise has them very well set up to content with internal players in 2022 and beyond.
Peter D.
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Mike Wilner has landed on his feet quickly and will now be writing for The Star. Absolutely despised him and his condescending self and homerism on the radio, but this could turn out to be a great add by The Star. Hopefully he brings objectivity this go 'round than spouting off that Travis Snider has MVP potential.
Highlander
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Press the Joe Panic button 
Peter D.
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Rogers getting rid of Blue Jays games is pretty big news on the broadcast side.
I?m not on the road enough to depend on the radio broadcasts, but what a disappointing decision. Simulcasting from TV does not capture the essence of the game. Even more so with the fact that Dan and Buck will be calling the game from a studio.
I?m not on the road enough to depend on the radio broadcasts, but what a disappointing decision. Simulcasting from TV does not capture the essence of the game. Even more so with the fact that Dan and Buck will be calling the game from a studio.
Kin
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Peter D. said:
I suppose I'm sort of torn on it where my initial reaction to this news was the same as yours where I feel like a good radio broadcast is integral to the game and especially so for the Blue Jays where their radio broadcasting was such an ubiquitous part of my youth and crucial to my experience as a Jays fan.
That said, since Jerry Howarth retired I can't truthfully say I've listened to a radio broadcast and even then probably just a handful of times over the last half a dozen years outside of brief spots in the car or something.
Highlander
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nothing press wise about the opener against the Yanks. More Blue Jays chatter please.
bustaheims
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Highlander said:
It?s spring training. There?s never much press about these games.
Highlander
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Kin
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So it definitely looks like right now the plan is to try and turn Martin into a CF which maybe would allow for them to eventually shift Springer to RF if things stick.
Which is also why I think the team should be generally open to the idea of trading Gurriel or Hernandez in the quest to beef up the rotation with Grichuk available as a temporary bridge.
Which is also why I think the team should be generally open to the idea of trading Gurriel or Hernandez in the quest to beef up the rotation with Grichuk available as a temporary bridge.
OldTimeHockey
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Nik said:
Does Hernandez bring much more than homeruns?