Jays Retain Bautista, Dickey, Encarnacion

[Rick C.]

BlueJays retain Bautista ($14M US), Dickey ($12M), Encarnacion ($10M).

 

[bustaheims]

No real surprises here. The only one that was even a question was Dickey, and with Buerhle, Estrada and Price all potentially leaving, it wasn't much of a question.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

No real surprises here. The only one that was even a question was Dickey, and with Buerhle, Estrada and Price all potentially leaving, it wasn't much of a question.

Dickey is bordering on addition by subtraction, no?

 

[bustaheims]

Dickey is bordering on addition by subtraction, no?

I think that opinion is coloured by his playoff issues. He was excellent in the 2nd half of the season. Pretty close to dominant at times. He's not a front of the rotation guy, but he still can be an excellent 3/4 type.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Dickey is bordering on addition by subtraction, no?

I think that opinion is coloured by his playoff issues. He was excellent in the 2nd half of the season. Pretty close to dominant at times. He's not a front of the rotation guy, but he still can be an excellent 3/4 type.

Yeah he was still a 2.0-2.5 win player and likely even more if he could ever figure out how to start the season better.

 

[Kin]

Dickey is bordering on addition by subtraction, no?

I think that opinion is coloured by his playoff issues. He was excellent in the 2nd half of the season. Pretty close to dominant at times. He's not a front of the rotation guy, but he still can be an excellent 3/4 type.

I don't know about 3/4 because I think we saw in the playoffs that you need that #3 guy to come up pretty big in spots and I don't know if Dickey will ever be that dependable. He's a good end of the rotation inning eater and so not a bad option at that price but I'd be pretty concerned about any rotation that really depended on him at this point.

 

[L K]

2016 Salary Structure
1B/DH -Encarnacion (10M)
2B -
SS - Tulowitzki (20M)
3B -
C - Martin (15M)
SP - Dickey (12M)
RP -
OF - Bautista (14M)
Misc - Romero (600K), Izturis (1M)

The Jays have 11 Arbitration players: Donaldson, Revere, Saunders, Smoak, Thole, Barney, Cecil, Delabar, Loup, Hutchison, Kawasaki

Players under team control:  Colabello, Goins, Pompey, Pillar, Carrera, Diaz, Hague, Hendriks, Jenkins, Tepara, Travis.


Could be worse.  The Nationals lowballed Bud Black and instead hired 66 year old Dusty Baker to be their manager.  Goodbye Stephen Strasburg's arm.

 

[Kessel Run]

Jays did not pick up their option on Izturis, so he is a free agent.

 

[herman]

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/jose-bautista-bat-flip/

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Thanks for sharing herman, I really enjoyed that.

 

[Kin]

So long as you're ok with other teams watching their home runs and flipping their bats when they go yard, sure, why not?

 

[Bender]

So long as you're ok with other teams watching their home runs and flipping their bats when they go yard, sure, why not?

At the same time it wasn't just any homerun. It would be ridiculous if that happened after every single one, especially if the game isn't on the line.

 

[herman]

To me, awesome baseball is awesome, regardless of who does what.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76J3fzEFT_Y[/youtube]

I was in a hospital ER waiting room and all the sickly folk around me looked way more excited than Bautista did there.

 

[Kin]

At the same time it wasn't just any homerun. It would be ridiculous if that happened after every single one, especially if the game isn't on the line.

That particular reaction? Sure. But bat flips in general or admiring your shots? That will/can happen much more frequently.

Like I said, I don't so much have a problem with it but it does sort of have to be a team-wide decision. If you have someone who likes to watch their homeruns then your pitching staff probably shouldn't throw at opposing players who do the same.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Pitchers seem to be the ones who get most upset about this stuff, but I never see anyone criticize or question the 'respect' or whatever of a pitcher who gets a big strikeout and does a big fist pump or something.

 

[Kin]

Pitchers seem to be the ones who get most upset about this stuff, but I never see anyone criticize or question the 'respect' or whatever of a pitcher who gets a big strikeout and does a big fist pump or something.

That's pretty standard across all sports though. We don't think anything of a player jumping into the boards after a goal but it would strike most of us as crazy if a goalie punctuated a big save with a big fist pump. Dunk on someone on you jump around, hit a contested two and you jog back down he floor.

Aside from Football, that is, where players celebrate everything they could possibly do.

 

[L K]

Like I said, I don't so much have a problem with it but it does sort of have to be a team-wide decision. If you have someone who likes to watch their homeruns then your pitching staff probably shouldn't throw at opposing players who do the same.

This is what I have a hard time with.  Bat flips are not ok, but throwing a 95 mile fastball into someones back or potentially at their head is deemed acceptable.  Throwing at a guy doesn't seem to be the equivalent of a hockey fight for a dirty hit.  It seems more like a two-handed slash.

 

[Kin]

This is what I have a hard time with.  Bat flips are not ok, but throwing a 95 mile fastball into someones back or potentially at their head is deemed acceptable.  Throwing at a guy doesn't seem to be the equivalent of a hockey fight for a dirty hit.  It seems more like a two-handed slash.

I agree, throwing at people is generally pretty stupid and outside of the threat of it leading to some baseball version of Mutually Assured Destruction I don't really think there's a place for it.

But there is the reality of the situation and the way pitchers deal with things. That's why I thought Bryce Harper was so on point when he criticized Papelbon throwing at Machado. He knew that what that would ultimately mean was that someone was going to throw at him in retaliation.

So Bautista being pro-flipping his own bat can't be the end of it. He's also got to be anti-throwing at the other team.

 

[L K]

Jose Reyes got arrested for domestic assault. 

 

[L K]

I really don't get why the break down outfield defense based on LF/CF/RF in terms of gold glove awards.  Pillar doesn't win because Kiermaier was better.  Yoenis Cespedes somehow wins a gold glove for his time playing in Detroit.