Kyle Dubas named Penguins President of Hockey Ops
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Nice promotion. Wonder if Dubas circles back on Tulsky after reports were Pittsburgh crossed him off their list for GM.
herman
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So this is a pretty tricky pickle. They have a trio of aging superstars (Crosby and Malkin are still dangerous) and maybe 2-3 play and play wingers that mesh well but have reached an expensive tier, but after that, it's a barren wasteland. There aren't even resources to re-tool. The only advantage is Crosby and Malkin are on sweetheart cap hits for a little longer. The only UFA market worth exploring is probably the NCAA/Europe avenue as there will be lots of opportunity (to play with legends) and net some resources at the deadline if they don't work out.
bustaheims
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herman said:
Yup. Hextall and Burke left the Pens in a bit of a mess, to put it lightly. Not going to be a quick or easy fix, and there isn't much time left to take advantage of Crosby and Malkin, who will be 36 and 37 respectively next season. They're in a weird spot where they can't really rebuild with those two on the roster, but they will need to soon.
Pittsburgh does feel a lot like Toronto. They have a pretty solid core. They have a sort of big-4 up front with Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Rust. Their D lacks a stud now that Letang is a little older but him, Petry, Pettersson, and potentially Dumoulin if they re-sign him is certainly above average. Question mark in net with Jarry.
They have a decent chunk of cap space, more if Dubas can find a new home for Granlund and/or Carter. They have all their 1st rounders, so expect to see one or two of those get moved at some point in the future. Pittsburgh will basically be all-in for at least the next 2 years to try and get Crosby another Cup. There's work to be done but they still have contender potential.
They have a decent chunk of cap space, more if Dubas can find a new home for Granlund and/or Carter. They have all their 1st rounders, so expect to see one or two of those get moved at some point in the future. Pittsburgh will basically be all-in for at least the next 2 years to try and get Crosby another Cup. There's work to be done but they still have contender potential.
Not a shock at all. I had a hunch he was angling for either a President and GM or President role, especially in Pitt as there was already a ton of reporting on that, based on the "streamline" tactic in Toronto, and this all but confirms that Kyle knew he had this in his back pocket.
Good for him, but his presser still makes me laugh.
Good for him, but his presser still makes me laugh.
Guru Tugginmypuddah
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I think we can take a WAG at what was in that email to Shanahan that sent him over the edge.
OldTimeHockey
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CarltonTheBear said:
Do we think he resigns Jarry?
Bender said:
The definition of a "retool" is pretty up in the air. I mean I could see them trying to make some changes but the end goal even for this upcoming season needs to be a Cup. Crosby and Malkin turn 36 and 37 this summer respectively. Clocks ticking. And if Dubas can get them another Cup before their retirement he'll be given as much rope as humanly possible to orchestrate a full rebuild after that (with them almost certainly winning a big lottery whenever it comes up).
Guilt Trip
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Doesn't confirm anything. Saw a Burke interview a few days ago and someone mentioned he had a deal in place. Burke basically said no he may have known about interest but no way a deal would be in place.Bender said:
Guilt Trip said:
I didn't say a deal was in place or airtight "proves" anything because there's no way for us to know without more details, but there's a reason why Pitt put everything on hold once the Leafs got bounced. I think that indicates heavy interest, and if we knew about it through the media then Kyle obviously knew about it and thensome. How frequently have we heard "tampering haha" in the last few days? Point being is Dubas knew something enticing was on the table, and once the details were ironed out he went for it.
Bender said:
I think Dubas knew his value around the league and didn't think the contract he was being offered, both in terms of money and power, met that value. Whether he should have approached that issue with the Leafs differently is obviously another story. But in the end he got what he wanted. Good luck to him there.
L K
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I guarantee someone from the Fenway group/Penguins talked to Dubas/his agent. Tampering happens all the time. But I think ultimately this was something that Dubas would know was available to him. The Leafs could have avoided the entire scenario if they didn't let him run through to the end of his contract and gave him an extension last offseason.
