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Leafs Front Office 2026-27

You'd think that maybe the leafs learned their lesson when they hired a GM who's former team refused to deal with him - so why not up the ante and go for a GM that the league has issues with. It's not like the league is always looking at the leafs with extra scrutiny. Genius potential hiring.
 
I suspect we'll see an announcement this weekend. First round is just about finished, there's potentially not even any games on Saturday. They'll probably want Sundin at the draft lottery on Tuesday.
 
Ok, what I'm hearing is that MLSE hired a firm to help search for a new POHO/GM and the firm suggested two people who have been out of the NHL for more than 5 years?
 
Ok, what I'm hearing is that MLSE hired a firm to help search for a new POHO/GM and the firm suggested two people who have been out of the NHL for more than 5 years?

Technically, they would have vetted many candidates and shortlisted a group to interview (some names have come out who are firmly in and around the executive space of the NHL); the choice to finalize is on the hiring party's decision making.

Sundin (and Gillis), by all accounts so far, is outside of the scope of the search firm's hiring process. Judging by the timing of Pelley's first contact with Gillis, I suspect Pelley was preparing to hire someone to oversee Treliving and Co., but then saw what happened at the deadline and pivoted to firing the GM outright.
 
Sundin (and Gillis), by all accounts so far, is outside of the scope of the search firm's hiring process. Judging by the timing of Pelley's first contact with Gillis, I suspect Pelley was preparing to hire someone to oversee Treliving and Co., but then saw what happened at the deadline and pivoted to firing the GM outright.

Actually now that you mention it there was a report that said Chayka interviewed with the Leafs for something back in February too. I didn't think much of it at first because of the source but here we are.
 
It's absolutely mind blowing the Leafs would be hiring two people to run the team who've been out of the NHL in any capacity for more than half a decade.
 
Actually now that you mention it there was a report that said Chayka interviewed with the Leafs for something back in February too. I didn't think much of it at first because of the source but here we are.

Pelley mentioned he talked to people inside the org and hockey people outside the org for their feedback on the state of the Leafs, which to me, sounds like he was already interviewing people for Shanahan's vacated position after Treliving probably noted that he was not able to handle the combined workload.
 
Pelley mentioned he talked to people inside the org and hockey people outside the org for their feedback on the state of the Leafs, which to me, sounds like he was already interviewing people for Shanahan's vacated position after Treliving probably noted that he was not able to handle the combined workload.
Yeah and that's fine but I do think it's worth bringing up the "what would you say you do here" question to the probably very expensive search firm if the two leading candidates didn't really come from them and the interviews are being led by Pelley and Teherany.
 
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Sure, all teams have some data info and scouts/advisors who weigh in. I posted about the Leafs data on this site about 20 years ago because I got to see some of it and how it was collected. But someone has to take all that in and make the final decision in the heat of the trade deadline. If the GM knows little about all the players involved and has to rely totally on data, opinions and scouting reports - from staff/advisors he doesn't know well, etc, then the scouts, AGM and staff probably should be making the decision - or knowledgeable posters on the internet might be better :). A guy out of the league for 17 years isn't going to know his adversaries very well either. All of that is hard enough to assimilate for a GM who has bee around for the last 17 years

The notion of Sundin being a GM out the gate was crazy talk.

It certainly helps to be familiar; I think it also introduces additional bias into the proceedings if the GM/HOHO already has too much familiarity, so to speak.

No GM knows every player/prospect; good data-driven GMs will set up processes and procedures to
a) surround him or herself with people whose instincts and skillsets complement and enhance the team
b) gather as much data as possible (hard stats and soft data like character, response under stress, competitiveness, etc.)
c) calibrate the tools for that sort of data lookup to isolate the signal from the noise

and then when decision times come around, use the data and those trusted people closer to the situation (as well as outside observers with less personal investment) to reach an informed decision. It's a job that requires knowing your own people more than knowing what pieces are out there, which is the job of the supporting managers/operators.

Like, the President of an auto manufacturer really doesn't need to know the nitty-gritty details of how parts are stamped/welded or the specific alloys. But that person should understand the identity of the brand and what it aims to accomplish, and set the VPs and Directors on the path to achieve those aims.

To that end, Sundin has lived it, and has some understanding of what he would've wanted from the org to help them succeed. He loves the Leaf, but has no particular attachment to the current way things are done, which is kind of perfect for a reset situation. How many years he's been gone is not super material to the matter as long as he is opened minded about how the game has evolved in systems. For that, he has a front row seat to the development of Swedish players to eventual NHLers, and the Leafs have oodles of data about successful teams and systems.

I also think Auston Matthews, and to a lesser degree William Nylander, have significant pull here as well, because whatever plans come to fruit need to align with their goal of winning here sooner rather than later.
 
I don't know why this came to mind, but I was thinking that other than Shanahan, the leafs have never had a true 'president of hockey operations'. They all had the dual titles of GM and POHO. The closest was Dryden I think, and he even named himself GM for a while.

I don't really have a point, it's just something I thought was semi interesting that crossed my mind. And maybe that's true for must NHL teams, but I don't have the inclination to look that up.
 
Yeah and that's fine but I do think it's worth bringing up the "what would say you do here" question to the probably very expensive search firm if the two leading candidates didn't really come from them and the interviews are being led by Pelley and Teherany.

My experience with recruitment firms is that their primary function is to provide a wider applicant pool and first screening per the hiring firm's spec, and never involved in actual interviews (like if I tried to interview for this position, I'd be filtered out easily at this stage since posting here doesn't really count in the NHL). Oftentimes, the non-search firm recommendations show a bit better because they are recommended by people who understand the position requirements and sort of do that pre-filtering naturally.

In this case, the search firm was invoked to make sure there weren't any hidden gems missed; if New Jersey didn't manufacture an opening, Mehta probably takes this job and no one would pooh-pooh the recruitment process. As long as their selection criteria is not completely out to lunch and their interviews rigorously cover the gamut of everything required, doesn't really matter where the candidate was found if they earned their way through the process.

That being said, I have no idea what their selection process is like and whether it is objectively rigorous or just glad handing some buddies. Certainly looks like the latter at this time.
 
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Like, the President of an auto manufacturer really doesn't need to know the nitty-gritty details of how parts are stamped/welded or the specific alloys. But that person should understand the identity of the brand and what it aims to accomplish, and set the VPs and Directors on the path to achieve those aims.

Which to me is the most bizarre thing.

As long as you have meddling ownership / board of directors you are running a circus.

Why do people who have no real hockey knowledge have a say in player personnel?

Sometimes trades come up that require immediate decision making, and you have to go to the board to get approval?

Who would want that job? How can you do your job to the best of your ability that way?

I think we saw that frustration play out with Dubas.
 
Which to me is the most bizarre thing.

As long as you have meddling ownership / board of directors you are running a circus.

Why do people who have no real hockey knowledge have a say in player personnel?

Sometimes trades come up that require immediate decision making, and you have to go to the board to get approval?

Who would want that job? How can you do your job to the best of your ability that way?

I think we saw that frustration play out with Dubas.

This is a very good point.

Boards are highly susceptible to bikeshedding. If I was on the MLSE board, guess who would've been traded in 2021 for a haul lol

If we take Pelley at his word, once the HOHO is in place, he and the Board will basically fork off. It's not unreasonable for them to have a say in let's say $50M+ deals, but they really shouldn't be trying to pick specific players (though I bet the Board was champing at the bit to lure in McDavid).
 
I don't know why this came to mind, but I was thinking that other than Shanahan, the leafs have never had a true 'president of hockey operations'. They all had the dual titles of GM and POHO. The closest was Dryden I think, and he even named himself GM for a while.

I don't really have a point, it's just something I thought was semi interesting that crossed my mind. And maybe that's true for must NHL teams, but I don't have the inclination to look that up.
I'd say that it was a pretty rare thing until I'd guess like 2010-ish. Even now it's not like it's super wide spread, I'm taking this information from what Keith Pelley said at his press conference after letting Treliving go so maybe it's not even right but he said 12 teams have a POHO and a GM, 8 teams have a POHO who is the GM, and 12 teams just have a GM.
 
Yeah and that's fine but I do think it's worth bringing up the "what would you say you do here" question to the probably very expensive search firm if the two leading candidates didn't really come from them and the interviews are being led by Pelley and Teherany.
That would be a question for the board to Pelley, right? MLSE paid for the search firm, and Pelley went with guys Tie Domi and "Todd Carroll, a former professional actor with a hockey background who met Pelley through" golf vouched for. WTF?
 
So Chayka, Sundin, Domi, Roberts.

NEPOTISM BABY!

Chayka and Domi go back to Max's junior hockey days and are friends.

Sundin and Domi are friends.

Roberts is friend.

Why hire competency when you can hire the power of friendship. At least this way we are building an Oilers front office so maybe that will entice McDavid to see that
 
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